E- mails 87 - Season Ticket Special
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to Your After Saturday's announcement, that next Season's Ticket prices are to rise 25%, Bluekipper.com have once again been receiving your views. Should we be happy to pay the extra cash in the hope of a better class of player at Goodison next year, or are the powers that be taking the piss, out of the loyal fans. Will the cash go on squad re-building, or will it go to pay off the mountain of debt the club is still crippled with. Historically Everton charge some of the lowest prices in the Top Flight, and yes we are known as the Peoples Club, but are the Board trying to price the average Joe out of the game, in search of the prawn butty brigade. Mail us your views!!!! Thank you all for all your views regarding this subject. Sorry to anyone who never got their comments up, but to say we were inundated would be an understatement. The majority have it, that Everton are having a laugh at our expense. A lot said they don't mind paying more, as long as the cash went on team building. Let's wait and see, though one thing is for sure, whoever runs the club, and however they run it, the vast majority of us will be back at The Shrine come August. Thanks again for your mails, and here is the last of them. * So we all pay more & do we get better players do we fuck.The board will sell Rooney after Euro 2004 & waste the money on no marks.you can see the disaster coming. Tim Dwerryhouse. (01/05/04) *
As far as I'm concerned
the fans should hold some sort of demonstration at the Notlob game to
show their feelings about the price increase. There is no way that we
should accept having the piss taken out of us by that shower of twats.
We should show them that it is not acceptable full stop. They should all
fuck off. How can that prick Dumbford say that "he makes no apologies..."
... well he fuckin should ! They haven't got a fuckin clue. The whole
thing absolutely stinks. Where's BlueBill's comments on it ? What's he
got to say about it all ? Carter, Lord, Gregg ? Where are they ? Let's
hear what you useless bastards have to say about it. *
Once again the board
don’t tell us the whole truth! Last year the board told us that money
generated from season tickets sales went to straight to the bank to pay
off the debt that previous management had run up living the champagne
lifestyle. So surly the extra income raised from the tickets sales will
go straight to the bank manager! No cash for Moyes from this scam. Bill
you might be a true blue but step aside and let real business men run
the club. * Can't believe these prices were announced before premiership safety is assured - great PR once again Mr Dumbford. My gut reaction was to say to mates that I wouldn't renew it next year but I'm starting to mellow. This is exactly what the board hope to exploit - they know us fans are an easy touch and we'll keep coming back for more. Most at risk of not renewing are families with the large hike in junior tickets, the future generation of fans, some of who may be lost forever. Obviously we realise the club need to maximise revenues but why do we still not have a store in town to exploit merchandise sales (another rip gone unnoticed - new kit will be 3rd in 3 seasons)? Why is the club shop shut for a stadium tour on a Sunday? I was on one last year and there were loads of people from Ireland wanting to buy gear being told they couldn't. Well done Mr DoneFor. Andy Ellis (Bullens Road Luxury). (01/05/04) * First time of writing so might not be as well written as others.The season ticket story goes on ! I guess for most people its a case of is the cash going to go to moyesy or is it paying that debt off ? I like others am sure I will probably find the extra cash and hope it goes to team rebuilding. But I feel that if its not given to moyesy this will be the last for a few years unless those lucky numbers come in on a Saturday night. Enough said !!! Regarding John Reece piece about building the team around Wright,Yobo,Gravesen and Rooney, three out of the four i can see were he's coming from, but can we really expect to get anywhere with Richard Wright in goal ? Would Wenger have sold him if he was that good ? He has a great talent as a shot stopper (probably the best since Big Nev) , but his ability at crosses and corners is very poor. Surely Nigel Martin will give us another decent season before young Turner may be good enough to take charge ? Also i think McFadden and Kilbane must be included in this rebuilding. Rarely have i seen a mid season capture make such a big impact as killer has. he must even be up there with Yobo and co for player of the season !!!!! forever blue, Reter Roberto (01/05/04) * I'm down. After catching half a dozen home games for the last few seasons I finally bit the bullet and bought a season ticket for this year. Admittedly the main reason was the hope that we might have a better season than last, but as I have said before being a blue is 90% disappointment 10% joy. This season has only compounded this assumption further. I took a seat in the main stand and to be faced with a price hike for next season means that my dalliance with being a season ticket holder will be short-lived. Apparently there are 1000 people waiting but until there is some commitment from the board that the money will be spent on replacing the dead wood to support Rooney (and lets face it he is consistently the only thing worth watching in a blue shirt). I'd keep your hand in your pocket. Wigan Blue. (01/05/04) * All these shouts for 'give Moyes the money' are really pathetic. If there was a stash of money lying somewhere then it would no doubt be offered to him. Do we really want to go the way of Leeds and Man City and risk disappearing down the plughole? Only Chelsea have been lucky enough to have a mad rich owner who is prepared to bung in loads of money which he doesn't need. The rest of us have to make do and borrow money. Large sums of cash don't always bring success anyway and this would leave the club further in debt. It is far wiser for the club to stand firm at the moment and keep afloat as best as possible. By this time next year the biggest earners at the club will be coming to the end of their contracts (Ferguson, Campbell) and this should free up more money for re-building. I think this is what the thinking is at the club, however, how the hell they expect the supporters to accept such increases in prices is beyond me. I gave up attending Everton games a few years ago and spend my money on a season ticket for a local Rugby Union club. As such I can hardly afford to go to Everton games at all now, and when I do it irritates me to see all my hard earned money being idled away on the pitch by players who are not that good. The salaries of Premiership players are crippling football, and resulting in price rises for supporters. The sooner football wakes up to this the better. Hoddros (01/05/04) * How many blues out there feel like me, don't want to pay for the season ticket next season but just will? The increase is a fuckin farce, we watch shit in the shittest ground in the league, i estimate that everyone's season tickets are increased on average 70 notes, if 28 000 people renew this would generate a couple of million along with the increase in individual match day tickets, if we finish roughly around 12/13 in the league this would also generate millions, will davie get any to spend, like fuck he will, i think me and the other 27999 season ticket holders should all go and gather outside goodison and demand some action, paul gregg was questioned at the agm about his lack of investment and he said basically something like, "why put money in when you get nothing back", well what the fuck does that bell think the supporters are doing, that fuckin helmet doesn't even turn up for the games. Lisa. (01/05/04) * Ok fair enough, season ticket prices must increase - keep up with the likes of Bolton, Blackburn etc. Why has not one statement he has made said anything about funds for players ? 28,000 season ticket holders is massive. Only bettered by a few clubs - and they are in the top 5 - AND they have reasonable transfer kitties for their Manager. If Gregg and co had the same level of commitment that Dunford is asking from the Everton fans, then paying this money would not be such an issue. As suitable funds would already have been available for Moyes in last January's transfer window - We would have more money at the end of the season as we would have probably finished in a higher position and we would not have been so depressed on Saturday watching that shite for a performance.It all boils down to the fact that Dunford is going to ask alot more from the fans than he ever will do from the board of directors and money men at the club. His take it or leave it stance, gives the impression he is taking this fanatical, massive support for granted (which has carried Everton for a while). It would be reasonable to assume that this sort of financial commitment from Evertonians would be followed up with a promise that David Moyes will have some Money to play around with in the summer. Alternatively, why not ask Duncan Ferguson and Kevin Campbell to do the honourable thing and do one - Even though who can blame them for seeing out the last year of what would be their last big contract with their future in football in the balance. Its mismanagement we are in this situation in the first place. The least Dunc could do is not lose the plot like he did against Leicester to help us with the remaining games - But that's another matter. We could probably get 4 good young players on the contract that these two are on. Danny Gabbidon, Darren Bent (good in the air with pace) Bulykin,Ibanez,,Szetela,Savage (don't see why fans should boycott this move, he would be the perfect foil for Gravesen (apart from Davis) and he is keen on a move - Ask Birmingham fans their opinion on him. More imposing than Nyarko/Carsley/Linderoth. Imposing midfielder is what we need. And with the spine of Wright - Yobo - Gravesen - Rooney. That's something to build on. So Dunford, start speculating to accumulate. After all, I you like to say - This is a Business (John Reece 30/04/04) * Re: Geoff 26/04/04. I think the point your missing Geoff is that we will now be paying the same if not more than supporters of Southampton, Leicester and Man City to sit and watch our team in a crumbling old stadium. I could understand the hike if was being spent on suitable redevelopment both on and off the pitch.(Gary 30/04/04) * I can understand the prices going up but 25% that is ridiculous. As you and me know the funds will not go to buying players and if it does it will be a small proportion of the money Everton will receive from these sales. Instead of making silly increases why don't the people on the board put there hands in there pockets because if they don't I can't see Moyesy staying around can you. (Nick Hampson 30/04/04) *
Shouldn't it be the board who raises such funds for moyes to make improvements
to the squad? We fuckin pay enough as it is at everton to watch a shower
of shite week in week out. Its about time they did their job properly
and raise the money from sponsorship deals and other ways. I for one will
not be renewing my season ticket, its absolutely scandalous. It wouldn't
bother me at all if we were a top ten team but were so clearly not. What
happened to breaking into the chinese market? that's all out the window
now isn't it now we've fucked off keijan. Its a farce. Board sort it out
or FUCK OFF!!!!!! (Paul Caslin 30/04/04) *
Certainly was bad timing - before the game reading the news that the season
ticket for lower Bullens was going up 25% to over £400 and then
having to sit through one of the most appalling Everton displays of the
season. I've watched the blues since 1958 and have seen some terrible
performances but Saturdays game was up there (or down there!) with some
of the worst I have ever seen. Most of the players didn't seem interested.
There was a lethargy in the side that must have had David Moyes tearing
his hair out and once Tommy went off that was it. No effort, no pride.
There were a couple of exceptions - Nigel Martyn played a blinder and
Yobo improves every game. David Unsworth always gives 100% but that was
it! And could someone please tell me what is the point of Tobias Linderoth? * Despite all the statements about how cheap tickets have been and how much discount they give to season ticket holders, I'd like to see Dunford's statement should the fucking impossible happen and we snatch the last relegation place, which given the fact we have lost Kilbane and Gravesen for the rest of the season could top what has become an immensely shite season. In the same week that we see the greats from '85 get together, I wonder how much we would be prepared to pay to see, Reid, Sharp, Bracewell, Ratcliffe et al..............a fucking sight more than the useless twats, Naysmith, Pistone, Jeffers are worth! (Pab 30/04/04) * Once again the Board of Everton show a lack of foresight and planning. As a long standing season ticket holder in the Lower Gwladys Street I , along with many others , have enjoyed the benefits of the small year on year price increases. I do, however, also agree with Michael Dunford that the income of the club has to increase in order to remain financially competitive with other clubs in the Premiership. However, it is not the fans' fault that the club have adopted this pricing policy over recent years. Surely it would have been much fairer to the loyal fans had the club decided to increase prices over,say , two years. Thus avoiding the vast increase of up to 30% as in the case of the Lower Gwladys Street. Of course I, like many other supporters, will pay the price to watch my beloved Blues. I just hope the Board will, for once, reward the most loyal supporters in football by giving the extra money generated to the best young manager in the Premiership to build a team worthy of such magnificent support. There,s probably more chance of me becoming Pope!!! Have to go now. Time for Mass. Rev John Edwards c/o Vatican City. (29/04/04) *
Typical
of Everton's board to choose possibly the worst performance of the season
to announce in their uncaring, arrogant manner the horrendous price increase
in next year's season tickets. A splendid way to thank the 28 000 of us
mugs who were foolish enough to imagine things might have been slightly
better this season. Just what are they thinking of spending the extra
revenue on? Even at an average of £80 a ticket increase,this will
raise just over 2 million pound, hardly enough to strengthen our depressingly
poor squad. Get rid of a few of the overpaid, under-achieving wasters,
and we could save that 2 million on wages alone. *
The whole ticket
price issue takes the biscuit! Fair enough if the price has to rise to
compete with the demands of being prestigious Premier League club. But
surely the board has seen this coming for a long while and should have
gradually risen the price's. For example at the end of last season when
everyone thought the club had started a new era, a price increase of a
about 10% wouldn't have been a problem!! This money needs to be used for
the better as well instead of paying for unfit money grabbers eg. Super
Kev * If we have to fork out more for tickets, then the board should fork out more for Moyesy. It's about time the stinge bags put some money into our club. Blu rob. (29/04/04) * I think Dunford is right in saying that our previous prices were below that of other premiership sides, but so is our quality of football. Apart from a select few players such as Rooney and a couple of others we have nothing but shite, simple as that. Like some other people who have e-mailed have said, we need to put this extra money to transfers and get some new faces in. Look at the crap we've got, Carsley, we could have got Jason Koumas for a lot less and in my opinion he is a much better player. I believe that given the money moyes could do a lot, look at two of our best players this season, Kilbane and Martyn, both brought in by Moyes for next to no money and both have been great, both possible contenders for our player of the season. So no, i don't mind paying extra, if we see the results. Paul Gregg is worth hundreds of millions, about 300 or 400 million I'm led to believe. He could have bought the Kings Dock by himself, they only wanted £3 0m and he would have made that back on tickets sales and other stuff inside a few years, the board need to get their hands in their pockets, not us. HOWELSY. (29/04/04) *I am absolutely disgusted at the obscene increase in prices, I earn approx £300 a week, and have 2 tickets for the upper bullens, mine has gone up from £390 to £473, my son's under 16 ticket has gone up from £254 to £323, it is now going to cost me nearly 3 weeks wages for 2 season tickets, I'm sorry but after 40 years of supporting the the blues through thick and thin, i've finally been priced out of going. Allan Roberts. (28/04/04) *
I think all
Evertonians are pissed off about the new season ticket increase, but you
have to remember that even when the increase is enforced are prices will
still be low compared to some clubs. There is no doubt that i like many
others will be renewing my season ticket. If there's a family of 4 buying
a season ticket each then that's * I don't fucking mind paying some extra cash for a season ticket but the twats on the board must put some money into David Moyes kitty to. fucking gobshites gregg and The Lord. luke maghull. (28/04/04) * The reason we had the lowest season ticket prices in the past, was because we have the worst facilities in the premiership. In any other ground in the Premiership you can get a pint and a pie at half time. At Everton (My season ticket is in the Lower Gwladys) you have to miss the last 20 minutes of the first half, if you fancy a beer at half time and then you will only get one if they haven't run out of beer or food and the beer pumps haven't broken down. If they want us to pay premiership prices, then premiership quality facilities would help cushion the blow. David, London (28/04/04) * Dunford can say 'it's regrettable but necessary' 'til he is blue in the face but the simple question is- is the increased price to give Moyesy some money in the transfer market or is it to give to the bank? If it is to top up the transfer kitty I don't mind, if it is to give to Mr HSBC then sod them. I'd hold my breath for an answer, but I don't want to suffocate. Adam, Knotty Ash. (28/04/04) *
The "economic
situation in football generally" is all of the game's own making
by paying the muppets on the field far too much money. If the clubs can't
generate enough income to meet the outgoings, then too bad. My opinion
is that the clubs need to look at the outgoings rather than biting the
hand that feeds them. (Lower gates equals less interest from the general
public in the eyes of the sponsors which may lead to less revenue from
there too.) I used to have a season ticket. Now I go to about 5 or 6 matches
a season because that is all I can afford. Next season maybe once or twice??
So in the long term Everton will get less of my money. * Will DM get the money off the season tickets. Will he FUCK! I don't mind paying the money if we get some decent players out of it. It will probably go towards the debts. Then Gregg, Abercromby and co. will sell The Duke under Moyes' nose What a gang of shitheads. Graeme. (28/04/04) * I don't think the Everton board understand what it means to be an Evertonian, We Love the club and travel the land to support them, THe players get paid stupid silly amounts of money, and they ask US for 25% more!?, why don't the lazy bastard players pay it ? I mean, I have 3 sons who come the game with me, so 4 season tickets, 1 new shirt for me and 3 new kits, plus traveling away and the odd bit of merchandise.... There having a laugh!. I'd like to say I'm not renewing mine, but I probably will. who's the sucker ? Phil Hughes (28/04/04) * I like many other Evertonians (I think) would not mind paying a little more for your season tickets IF we actually saw some of our hard earned lolly being put to use to buy some much needed new blood. But as you are probably only too aware, each time we have had a bit of money (Jeffers, Ball, record season ticket sales and an average home gate of 37,000) we are still fed some bollocks about no cash being available and still £50m in debt. truth is a rare commodity inside Goodison Park unfortunately. Christian (28/04/04) * £91 increase! How can they justify increasing the prices by that much when we watch shit most weeks. Our prices are being compared to Man United, Liverpool, Man City, Blackburn and Bolton – how? There is no comparison!!!!! The facilities in these grounds are so much better and these clubs actually spend money, we should be compared with Portsmouth and Leicester! Premier League board, you’re having a laugh!!!! Lee, St Helens (28/04/04) * The board are incompetent, have made incompetent decisions and now want us to pay, well I am sorry. Gave Walter Smith £12m and then said ooops, media deal fell through. Kings Dock, we have £30m oh no they didn't, it was a lie and we were sold down the river. Gave contracts to old decrepit players eg Ferguson. Blue Bill said when he stepped in to get him from Newcastle -he would run through a brick wall for us! At £35,000 a week, hardly playing and getting sent off when he does I would!! Absolutely gross. I have had a season ticket for over 20 years but I have to make a stand, I will be bailing out to make a protest. Thousands of others will as well, Dunford should resign now. Also, no discount for early purchase, roll on an administrative nightmare just before the season starts and about 2,000 bung in a late application - like I said rank incompetence. Michael Gee (28/04/04) * I must say the increases are once again down to the gross mismanagement of the club. I think every evertonian will agree that price increases where acceptable, but knowing that in some cases it would be up to 30% per cent is basically unfair on the fan. Have the board once again not had the foresight 3-4-5 years ago to see that millstone debts that are weighing the club down needed addressing, and therefore to phase in increases regarding to season tickets would have been more manageable to the 'punter in the street', which is basically all Everton's board see the fans as. Well the way i see it, there's no cut off date for buying early, and getting your seat at a reduced rate, its basically pay up or shut up. Okay then, if there's no noticeable activity in the transfer market before that date, 19th June, and obviously there wont be with the euro championships to take centre stage, then i may think twice about shelling out to watch the same old shite. The pubs quite a nice place on saturday afternoon, and comes a damn sight cheaper, also the barmaids are a lot more attentive to their paying public than Everton's board are. K. Pickett. (28/04/04) * DUNFORD IS BASICALLY RIGHT ! BUT THE WAY HE IS GOING ABOUT IT STINKS. HE'S SAYING ' THATS THE WAY IT IS , BOLLOCKS , TAKE IT OR LEAVE IT'...THE EVERTON BOARD/ DIRECTORS ARE ALL BOLLOCKS & IF DM GETS LITTLE OR NO MONEY DURING THE SUMMER TO BUY THE PLAYERS WE DESPERATELY NEED THEN THEY ARE TAKING THE PISS ! Celtic Scouse. (28/04/04) * First and foremost the question all evertonians want answered is, will the extra money for the season tickets go to moyes to buy new players for next season? If dunford or whoever comes out and gives us a straight answer to this very straight question all this debate can stop now. The majority of blues don't mind paying the increase if they know that it will be used to put a couple of decent players out on the park. So Mr dunford stop pussy footing and tell us what is going on please. I don't mind paying an extra £93 if we know if can help the manager buy some players. domingo. (28/04/04) * I can't believe the timing of the boards decision, if they had any foresight they would have done this last year after we had had a good season. To do it now is crazy, after a season when not only the lack of quality of everton but lack of quality of the whole league (apart from the top 3) is being shown to be mediocre at best. I was in two minds about renewing my season ticket, which I have held for 12 years. This announcement has made my mind up for me. I simply can't afford to buy the season ticket anymore. Over the last 10 years the game has slowly been taken away from the hardcore of loyal fans, there is soon going to be a big crash in attendances throughout the league. I believe the golden age of premiership football which sky's revenue built, will shortly be coming to an end. Ticket prices are getting ridiculous. And the quality seems to be getting worse. Managers talk about the downturn in transfer fees but there seems to be no downturn in the amount they charge the fans to watch what has become a very average league. Renoir. (28/04/04) * If adults did not get in on junior match prices our increases would have been smaller. Sam. (28/04/04) * The rise was to be expected I suppose but 25% is taking the piss a bit. Saying that I don't mind giving the extra money as long as the extra funds are released to David Moyes to buy better players that we so desperately need. However if, despite the large increase the board still refuse to back the manager then Dunford and Carter and Co. really would have a lot to answer for and I would seriously have to reconsider whether to get a season ticket the following year. Keith Stafford (27/04/04) * I can see why they have risen the price of the tickets, for moyes that is to rebuild our beloved squad, or will it be going to this fuckin debt that we have had for years........ill be getting one next season (season ticket that is).....but i wanna see 10th or higher, and if that's not the case then fuck it, I'm not paying shit loads of money to see us fighting for draws at our own ground, what a load of shit......Mick Makaveli (27/04/04) * Is Blue Bill and the rest of his cronies on the board really taking the piss!? I must admit firstly that although my season ticket has gone up 91 quid, i'll still be renewing my ticket (don't ask me why for the shite we watch week in week out!) Anyway,does this mean that Moyesy will be getting the excess money we'll be receiving from the ticket sales or will he be getting shit on from a great height from Messers Gregg (Finch in disguise!) and Grantchester (Lord Lucan in disguise!)...two pricks with shit loads of money that are too tight to dig into their pockets....knobs Pablo (27/04/04) * You have got 2 be bloody kidding me!! there is no way I will be prepared to fork out that much next season if all we get is the same abysmal shower we were 'treated' to during the blackburn match! I'm prepared to pay to see the team that I love but not at the expense of having to eat cold beans 3 times a day for the rest of the year its ridiculous! I do understand that in order to spend money the club has to make money and that we are its revenue but what about the millions certain members of the board are holding back from investing? If we do all pay this 25% rise then is Moyesy gunna get a large cash injection in the summer to improve the squad from out ticket money? If he doesn't then I'm afraid that there is no way I'm going to be happy sitting in the cold on a plastic seat drinking tea that frankly I wouldn't wash my arse in and watching the same crap that we've been seeing recently from this squad... not matter how much blue blood is in me! Heather Lennon (27/04/04) * What a perfect time to give us the opportunity to decide whether we should pay 25% more to watch our team and its "stars". If we have to pay more then surely the board and players should be paid less !!! That alone the Blackburn game is not exactly a good sales pitch is it ??? I think I will do a Wimbledon and relocate to watch Tranmere !!! Shambles so it is !!! Kev from Walton (27/04/04) * I will be more than happy to pay the extra money, but only if the board do the same and put their hands in their pockets and get us some decent players. I will not be paying the extra money if we have to watch that mediocrity again next season. Okocha, Koumas and Gabbidon would be good buys. Get your cheque book out Gregg! Chris (27/04/04) * This board are just getting worse. Their fuckin laughing at us an taking the piss, Kenwright came on this board an made a million promises were still waiting for 1 of them promises to come true. Sack the board. bluenose 656 (27/04/04) * Are they having a laugh?? Nigh on 460 hundred quid (a whopping 25% rise!!!) to sit in the Park Stand and suffer abject mediocrity for yet another season. The Board's failure to support the manager (dress it up how you will, but that's the stark reality) leaves us scrapping for the Premiership bits with the foot balling giants that are Portsmouth and Blackburn. They're taking us all for dickheads. Well that's me, I'm off. Dave Randles (26/04/04) * Can't say I'll be renewing mine after the outrageous price hike announced yesterday. 28000 seems too high a proportion of season tickets for us and yes they were cheap last year but i think until Paul Gregg and Lord G do a bit more for us from their own pockets I'll start picking and choosing games like they do. On a pro rata basis I'm sure the average brickie or bus driver puts more of his income into EFC than they do. Is it love or money? Mick (26/04/04) * The club can't win. The fans scream permanently about bringing in better players. We have paid next to nothing for our football for years now, and the hike is only bringing us in line with your Southampton's, Leicester's and Man City's of this world. Hopefully Moyesy will be given the cash in the Summer to build up a decent squad for an assault on Europe. Geoff (26/04/04) * Why don't they charge the Cockney away fans £50, for our away end, like we have to pay when we go to Stamford Bridge, Highbury and alike. An increase was expected, but 25% is taking the piss. I suppose the players have fallen on hard times. Never mind I shall just ask my boss if I can do the odd Saturday, so Stubbsey, Rooney, Ferguson and co., can pay their bills this winter. Mike, Aintree, (26/04/04) |