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What Heartbeat?

This is the main problem I've got with Moyesy. He reckons after flukeing 6 points against two shite sides that Ossie is the heartbeat of the team. Now don't get me wrong he's chipped in with one or two good goals but he as got to be the easiest player in the league to brush of the ball, no pace and no stamina and not a lot else. Why haven't we replaced him? If this is the heartbeat of the team were f.....d. Raymond Liderth. (06/11/08)

How To Do A New Stadium

Reading today about Spur's new ground development plans - five years of acquiring local properties, local consultations, speaking to the council, local and central government, a public consultation, and acknowledging that the their stadium should remain in the locality and provide for the local community. Everything we haven't done then.

Blue Bill you can stick your Clubcard points up your gary - take your 30 pieces of Tesco value silver and I hope you can sleep at night if you deliver us a white elephant. I was pro Kirkby once but the numbers don't add up - walk away from it. True Blue 'til I die Rich Welsh Blues. (06/11/08)

Jimmy Bullard

I'd love to see Jimmy in Blue, he suits Everton's style of play, never gives up and is an honest player. He'd be a great asset to Everton. Steve, Dublin. (06/11/08)

Londinium 200AD

It could have been Londinium in the year 200AD, barbarian hordes were brought down from the north to an amphitheatre, they were spat upon, spare coins and rubbish thrown at them, until they get so angry that they sent brave guards to beat a few and drag them out and parade them in front of the baying hordes before taking them away for further punishment.

It was The Emirates, year 2008AD!

I am a fifty year old Everton season ticket holder, main stand, as is my partner Lesley who is forty seven. We sat in the away enclosure on Saturday ticket numbers Row 21 seats 735 and 734.

Up until the Arsenal equaliser in the second half there had been the usual banter between the fans, some very amusing. However, during and after the first goal celebrations we were spat upon from above. Now this was not one isolated incident there were several of us who clearly had saliva on them including a very elderly lady behind me, women and children. (Please
view this very explicit account by a chap two rows in front www.onlinegooner.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=10466)

We complained to the stewards who looked quite shocked. During and after the 2nd Arsenal goal celebrations we were subjected to more spitting, liquid, food and waste raining upon us. We were informed that nothing could be done as the culprits had not been seen. We knew who they were; they were laughing and baiting the row of young lads in front of us. Now these lads in front were no angels and had been drinking but they and the rest of us were angry and the tension rose and you could feel it was about to get heated the verbal exchanges were no longer funny but threatening and the language was fowl. At this point two stewards were apologising profusely to us and were genuinely embarrassed and very uncomfortable about the situation.

The trouble started when an Everton fan reached over the barrier to try and grab the arm of an Arsenal fan who was gesticulating at him over the barrier. He was quite rightly pushed back. Other Everton fans near us jumped up to remonstrate and then the police appeared and started to drag two lads over the barrier while their mates tried to drag them back while shouting "what about them upstairs they have been spitting at us" and pointed to the culprits above us. At this point a policeman used his truncheon on a lad being dragged head first and backwards over the barrier, his jacket pulled up to his neck exposing his upper torso. At this point we were still sitting down trying to avoid the swinging truncheon. As soon as I heard the crack of the truncheon on the lad I shouted for the policeman to stop and stood and caught the truncheon and pleaded with the other police and stewards to stop this mindless thug from indiscriminately assaulting people. Lesley has informed me that I was screaming "please stop him, please". All very dramatic you may think, but 8 years ago my lad (now 21) suffered a severe head injury and has a large plate in his forehead. The sight of other young lads being severely beaten about the head and body was beyond my patience and understanding of civil rights in this country. All I could see and hear from above and to our left was the sight and noise of the home fans baying for blood and the sound and sight of that one policeman, his face and eyes fixed with rage and violent intent. (I have his number!)A second policeman this one shorter with a goatee beard used his baton from behind the other police and stewards aiming at any away fan within reach. Once the police had removed two lads and the truncheons went away I confronted The Overzealous One repeatedly shouted his number and pointed at him so those taking photographs and video clips could clearly see who had started the excessive violence.

The Overzealous One shouted back I can do you for obstructing a police officer, at this point I climbed over the barrier told him I was volunteering to be arrested and followed the two handcuffed lads down to the pitch side and the long walk behind the goal and towards the tunnel and custody room. During this walk I was subjected to continual threats. "This is the last game of football you will see, I'm going to see you get done with your mates, you wont be going back on your coach, you wont be back home tonight" etc. The Overzealous One was ranting. I told him that we will see and the CCTV would sort out the truth. Lesley following me overheard these threats, and was escorted by a female police officer who informed her that I would be held for a long time and taken to Holloway police station as I had been drinking and involved with assaulting a police officer. Lesley was then escorted back to her seat and spat upon and verbally abused, when she complained the police woman asked a senior officer what to do with her, "Eject her!" was the order and Les ran up the steps to the back crying. (On the way home we listened to radio 5 live 606, and heard an Arsenal fan explaining what he had seen and mentioned a lady running away crying. Les then spoke to Alan Green (yes him) on 606 and described her view of events.

Meanwhile in the amphitheatre holding pen, one lad cuffed behind his back with bleeding head wound was being questioned to why he resisted arrest " cos I was spat upon and he hit me over the head" indicating The Overzealous One. A second lad brought in a minute or two later was cuffed and complained that his trousers stank because someone had thrown a cup filled with vomit at him. His trousers on one side did have what looked and smelt like vomit! He asked if he could wipe it off "Tough" was the response. At this point the security guard, who I had been talking to before the violence appeared at the door to inform me that he had seen everything and I asked him to stay and explain. He spoke to the senior officer of the holding pen. Meanwhile The Overzealous One starts to talk to me. Every time I mentioned the use of the truncheon he shouted "I only used it once". After repeated interruptions I refused to speak to him and informed him that he was not going to intimidate me and that I was eager to go to court and defend myself. The Overzealous One removed himself and during the next few minutes I sat and watched proceedings. There was a lot of discussion going on in the adjoining rooms and corridor and not a few curious glances in my direction by security and police alike. The lad with the head wound shouted over to me "you'll be alright mate I saw you trying to stop it take my number ill stand for you". Bless him!

The Overzealous One reappeared to take my details and started to call me Ian and treat me very differently. He said you will notice that I have not cuffed you. I presented my wrists and asked to cuff me like the others and charge me. He asked for my season ticket and said I would not need it again. I told him to take my details from it and return it to me as I was going to Goodison on Saturday. At this point the senior officer talked to me very calmly and politely, again during my explanation The Overzealous One interrupted to claim that he had only used his truncheon once. I informed the senior officer that I was not going to speak in the presence of The Overzealous One. I explained in private my view of events to the senior officer and we chatted for a while about football and his extensive experiences of policing football. Following this pleasant interlude The Overzealous One returned to tell me that I was a lucky boy and that I was not to be charged, to which I suggested that I was willing to go to court to clear my name of any allegations. I was then escorted from the premises with a short delay while the police cleared the area as the Everton fans had been attacked near their coaches, not my words, those of the police! I rang Les met up with her and we made our way home.

Looking back after a few days reflection the incident on Saturday reminds me of detailed accounts of the history of the Roman Empire and their lust for violence and bloodshed in an amphitheatre. This was at Arsenal FC, a club I have admired from afar since childhood. Not one of those London clubs where you might expect this. The stewards working the area between the two sets of supporters were left with an impossible task. They got no help from other stewards and police upstairs. They saw what was happening and apologised. Then when it got uglier the police moved in to set about a small group of young away fans. The stewards were as shocked as us!

One steward saw the distress Les and I were in and did his utmost to correct what he saw as an injustice. Thank you again mate you were a star on a day when very few amongst the 60,000 plus seemed to care! Ian Walker. (06/11/08)

Fellaini Wigs

I saw a few people in the Gwladys street with Fellaini wigs on. Aaron. (06/11/08)

Two Strikers Is The Way Forward

Living in Canada, I have to get up at 4:30am to watch my beloved Everton.So you can imagine my disgust at seeing the team line ups. Everton at home, to a team that avoided relegation on goal difference last year, playing the immensely popular 451 formation against the mighty Fulham ( who thought it was a good idea to play two strikers away from home ). What the fuck is wrong with you Moyes? Two strikers against United and one against Fulham. I feel ashamed that , that, that, fuck it ,I'm lost for words. Negative doesn't even come close to describing what your mindset must be. You manage this team like Mike Brearley used to captain the English cricket team ( lets try to avoid defeat first and then see if we can get lucky and sneak a win ). I'm sending this email at half time & in a way hope that Everton don't win because you don't deserve it. Brent. (06/11/08)

Bring Barton To Goodison

After the recent bad times we have had to endure (to the utter delight of the red shite fans) it was great to see us not role over and die against man ure. I feel we just need that extra bit of bite in midfield and it may annoy a lot of people but I think we should add Joey Barton to our squad as I feel he might just have that extra strength which osman lacks to help Fellaini's game to develop. I think Barton knows it but if we get him back to his best we will be the winners and won’t have to rely on 4-5-1 formations. Seeing as our trip to Anfield is going to be our cup then final lets go there with a team that might derail their chances and frighten the fuck out of them. Chris Simpson. (06/11/08)

Why?

Like most Evertonian's I was gutted to see Wayne move on in 2004. Personally I think he should have given us at least another season before considering a move, but that wasn't to be and he moved under a cloud. Since then he appears to have developed a real hatred for his childhood club, which he clearly demonstrated yesterday when he kissed the Manure Club Crest.

As much as it hurt back in 2004, I tried my hardest to understand his decision by seeing it from Wayne's point of view (a very ambitious young footballer). I never however thought that he would have such little respect for a club he supported as a child and then finally went onto play for (oh, how I can only dream).

I had hoped he may return home one day, but since he left he seems to be on a mission to destroy any goodwill he may have had with Everton and the fans (even the more liberal ones like me). He's a talented young footballer, no doubt, but I'm finding it increasingly hard to like him at any level, even when he's wearing an England Shirt!!

For those of you that are in the know, why does Wayne dislike our club so much, is it the fan's, Moyesy or his Dad, or am I simply overreacting? Simmy Soccer. (06/11/08)

4 5 1

You are right Ben have no idea what goes on behind the scenes at Everton, though I doubt that you have any more of a clue than I do. I am entitled to have my opinion heard however and that opinion is that D. Moyes is not the great saviour. Seeing as he is the one who buys players, has quite a say in the training of those players and instructs them to adhere to his tactics, I fail to see who else is to blame. If a factory or office stops performing to a satisfactory level, they don't sack the entire workforce, they get rid of the man in charge as he is the one in control. And no I don't think we have become an established consistent top 6 team (one of those would play attacking football as often as possible ). In those years we have qualified for Europe, our record is, at best, shaky, at worst, pretty crap.

My complaint wasn't just about the derby (can't believe I actually witnessed that heap of shit) but is aimed at the many games where we should be looking to attack at all costs, only to hear the pundits say that Everton are fielding 4-5-1 again & again & again & again. To do it against Fulham at Goodison is quite beyond belief (yeah, I know we won but I and many other Evertonians would rather see the two strikers up front from the start, not with 20 odd minutes to go).

I'm hoping that the early exit from the uefa cup will enable us to perform better in the epl later in the season due to the lack of too many games. Finally Ben, thank you for responding to my email. I respect your views & hope that you will do likewise. NILS SATIS NISI OPTIMUM. Brent. (06/11/08)

13 A Side

In response to Mal, i may be missing something but you've named 13 players in your team for the utd game! When you accuse Moyes of being useless tactically i think you lose a bit of credibility when don't even know you can only play 11 players. Regards, Old Greg. (06/11/08)

Kissing The Badge

Just been watching goals on sunday and the most annoying man on telly Ian Wright said he didn't blame rooney for kissing the badge, because he did that when he went back to palace. Not being funny Wrighty lad, but Everton football club is a much bigger club than Crystal Palace will ever be and if you grow up an Evertonian you stay an Evertonian for life. That fat twat wayne rooney deserves every bit of stick that he gets and much much more, he never was a scouser and never was a blue. If something had been lashed at his horrible fat bonce then the fans would've been criticised for it, even though he would've brought it on himself by kissing a badge on a red shirt. It's not about selling your soul to win trophies, it's about wearing the royal blue jersey, going out there and giving everything you've got and bringing the glory days back to the club you love, not the club who's gonna throw money at you to spit in the face of the people who made you. Incidentally if Phil Neville had've scored and kissed the badge he'd probably be answering FA charges by now. Anyway, let's not take anything away from a brilliant performance, let's kick on and get back up there where we belong. COYB! Danny Latham, West Derby. (01/11/08)

Attitude & Respect

Firstly, I am very happy with the boys' team spirit against Man Utd. But, fuck off Wayne. You little fucking gobshite. Have some fucking respect. Ryan Williams. BA (hons) (01/11/08)

rooney

Alright, I know he's dead to us and all that but that in itself doesn't mean he's never worth commenting on him. He makes football news and to an extent he still is football news. So I'm affording myself the luxury of not really being that bothered about him whilst still finding time to say it out loud to anyone who'll read it.

The idea of him notching his hundredth goal against us made me feel sick to my stomach. The notion that a one-time die hard fan would ever relish the opportunity of slotting against his boyhood club, one that gave him his big chance and later threw everything they could afford to in a bid to keep him, is something that we, the fans, will never be able to truly comprehend.

True, players are a different breed, and clubs stop being objects of adoration once you enter into the "kick ball for cash" agreement with one of them. But as has been said often enough before, when people like Rooney play on fans' emotions and then move on for the next big offer, it rankles. Or at least, it used to.

The day we sold him was the day football died for me. I still watch, I still love it when we win, but I just don't get as het up when we lose any more. It's largely down to the fact that his transfer, and the way he conducted himself over it, sickened me. If he can treat the club like that, why would we expect any other player to show any degree of loyalty? We were meant to mean something to him.

Anyway, I digress. Other than the fact that we started to look like a team again, that we got in and amongst the Mancs and let them know we were there, that we played the way we all know we can and that we could have won the game with a shade of luck, the best bit about Saturday was the soulless get's reaction to the hounding he got.

If United had been three up and cruising, it probably would have been a snidey grin and fingers indicating the score to the Park End. But it wasn't, and the petulant little nark couldn't handle it. Kissing the badge is an embarrassing foible of the modern-day footballer, to show the fans where loyalties lie. Loyalty? No, it cuts no ice. We have met you, Wayne. We know what it takes to turn your head. And equally it just makes you look stupid if you choose to do the kissing whilst a keeper is preparing to take a goal kick rather than picking your effort out of the net.

So if you're reading this - I know you love my work - I just want you to know that you, personally, will never be a part of this. The sad bit is that you once were, but once again you've shown us that your heart has been ripped out and replaced with a large wallet.

You and your patchy little hyena head will never be welcome at Goodison, not by the people that matter, and you'll never be talked of in the hushed and revered tones of so many of our former greats. Posters of you will adorn the walls of ten-year-olds in Altrincham, Dagenham, Truro and Plymouth . But never Liverpool .

Partly our loss. Mostly yours. Dead to us. milo. (28/10/08)

Phil Neville - Scouser

Today should be remembered as the day Phil Neville became a scouser. A lot has been written on various websites about Phil, an granted he may not be the most gifted player we have but by hell does he try. His tackle early into the second half changed the game, end of. This got the crowd going and more importantly the players.

Screech, may have started his career slow but today was his best game in a blue shirt by far. His performance was rounded off with a superb equaliser. Remember folks he is only young with a large price tag on his head, and also cant speak a word of English, so not a bad start to his Everton career.

United started the game well, and could have been out of sight before half time, but thankfully USA kept it down to one. The second half was all Everton and when only 4 minutes of added time was added, it was the Everton fans that wanted more (how times change). Maybe Moyes could have changed the front two a bit earlier, especially as United were on the back foot.

If a certain Spaniard who was once again failed to deliver against the big boys, could display a fraction of the commitment of Phil Neville he would be a world beater. Sadly his performance and that of Yakubu was the only down side on a day the blues finally stood up and were counted.

On a final note spare a thought for Wayne Rooney's dad, how embarrassed must he have been with his sons display of kissing the badge and finger salute. If that was my son I'd grab the little fat p**ck by those big ears and kick him up and down croxy and disown the c**t. Keep the faith and remember Phil Neville superstar, got more medals than Steve Gerrard. (plus he is the dad of his kids) Dave Hughes. (28/10/08)

We deserved 3 Points From United Game

A point against manure? Normally I'd of settled for that given our recent poor form, but to be honest I thought we deserved all 3 points today. Second half we were awesome, it's as simple as that. If that Yakubu effort had gone in I genuinely believe we would of won comfortably. Once we scored the first goal, United looked absolutely rattled; unfortunately we just did not do enough to take full advantage, with one or two of our players looking tired (Peanuts in particular). Still, the fat kid from Croxteth didn't score his much predicted 100th goal against us (thankfully) and he got the send off he fully deserved from the fans after having the audacity to do that badge thing to the Park End fans. Man of the match for me was Screech, he did a cracking job and is finally starting to look like he is finding his feet after his big money transfer. Hopefully we can go on from here and start to climb the table. COYB and FTRS. Behind Blue Eyes. (28/10/08)

Arteta For England

It came up in a convo with mates today that our spanish wizard is now eligible to play for england! is this true guys? if so can we start a rally to get the lad in an make the left side of england his! he deserves it. cheers. Will. (28/10/08)

Sky Text

Just a little note to you lads informing you about the information on sky tex today 27.10.08 stating the blues have only beaten united once in the last 35 years.As we know this is rubbish. Interested to here your views on this Dean Mackin from Skelmersdale. (27/10/08)

Moyes

The only way this team will improve is to get rid of Moyes,he has become stale, void of new ideas and does not have a plan b, mind you he will be laughing all the way to the bank with all the money it would cost to get rid of him. ( and all this from a club with no money )What other club would offer a 5 year contract worth 17 million pounds to a man who has won nothing after more than 6 years and has a very bad record in all cup competitions and with a few exceptions has a poor record in the transfer market. roll on the takeover. (24/11/08)

Out Of Europe

Well where do you start on the Liege debacle ........... lets be brutally honest it was not a good performance as our Davey suggests by a very very long margin. I have read many many articles over the last couple of months & Moyesy is either lauded up as the chosen one or slated & we want his head on a silver platter. I personally think on the whole in 6 years he has done a good job considering the clowns upstairs running the club but, there comes a time for change & I personally think we can go either 1 of 3 ways.

1 - A mighty rich billionaire comes in, uses Everton as his play thing for several years to promote dozens of other interests, keeps David & Bill at the helm, Moyesy spends hideous amounts of money in a very short time & we do absolutely nothing for another 2/3 years & he eventually gets the boot after mediocre seasons reaching cup semis, another top four finish & a flirtation in the champions league / uefa cup. OR

2 - A mighty rich billionaire comes in with a new broom & clears out everyone (in approx 12 months), all the clowns upstairs, Bill & David included, brings in a quality foreign coach & buys half of Liverpool to put us where we belong in a swanky new stadium costing £500 million & sticking to fingers up at Liverpool, we go on for the next 3 years employing countless coaches/managers till we hit the jackpot & bring in loads of trophies !!!!!

3 - No billionaire ever comes in Moyesy gets sick to the back teeth with no money & walks, form goes out the window, our best assets on the field get picked off, we continue to argue & pursue a ground move that will NEVER come off & we do a Sheffield Wed / Leeds Utd.

Now back to Liege, like i said earlier it was NOT a good performance. E.G. Neville, Cahill, Osman, Baines, Hibbert, Saha etc etc, These guys could not even put there foot on the ball & pick a decent searching pass inside the oppositions half, you could see after 20 minutes the balance wasn't right & why the hell is Cahill playing when he looks seriously out of shape ??? Davey boys body language summed it all up last night & all we hear from him last night was his moaning about the supposed red card & penalty decision. David you make your own luck when playing with the elite & last night we did not deserve a thing never mind a gift from Espinoza.

I never laughed as much when Pat Nevin came on after the game saying tactically "David is spot on, when there's a decision to be made he goes & does it & quickly, he made several decisions tonight when the balance was not quite right in the 1st half in midfield" ... hahahahahahahahahahaha, Nevin you must have rose tinted spectacles mate from where i was watching, David's team selection was baffling last night to say the least !!! I for one would like to see David come out & say enough's enough i will leave at the end of the season, after my contracts up & get my dream move to Celtic or United, i have taken you as far as i am tactically able & thanks for some fabulous years !!! COYB FTRS & BLUE TILL I DIE - SY. (24/10/08)



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